Paddy or Jap

[FATMAN]

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Here are 2 members cars, both Gt Coupes, both out of england, but both fairly differant. The owner of the black 86 has gone for the traditional "Paddy spec" where as the owner of the white 85 has gone for the "jap spec" using a fair few jap aftermarket parts. Just like the owners of the red & white arched cams http://www.ae86irl.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4804 these are both of the bhoys first cams ditching a corsa gsi & golf gti respectively.
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[FATMAN]

Here are the lists of mods to both cars (as writen by the owners)

Black 86
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q156/fatman359/Picture810.jpg

1.6 twin cam engine
full janspeed system
heat wrapped four branch
K&N air filter
TRD Leads and Plugs
TRD Rad Cap
Koni all round fully adjustable
60mm lowering springs
TRD quick shift gear box
Front and Rear strut braces
4 New cibies
Superlights
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q156/fatman359/Picture814.jpg





White 85
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q156/fatman359/Picture809.jpg

85 irish/uk blue interior
trd shox avo springs
polybushed whiteline panhard rod
trd diff
trd anti roll bars
fujitsibu exhaust
kakimoto mani
advan a alloys
new front lights sidelights glass grill
redline rears with modafied number plate surround
trd gear knob nardi steerin wheel
exedy clutch
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q156/fatman359/Picture815.jpg

[FATMAN]

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So at the end of the day, it comes down to preference, to keep the coupe the way they were when most of us were growing up or blend it in with the drift machines of japan.
I know the one i'd have.
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[Sarsfield]

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz:)

[sc86]

black paddy spec everytime

[EOIN AE86]

Well to be honest when i think of jap i think mad dished wheels,kit,trd spoiler,arches etc....
She is a fairly standered lookin jap against a tidy paddy coupe!!

[speed1ton]

The japer!!!! Its a bit confusing to look at IMO

[EOIN AE86]

jesus lads come, give 85cam a break will ye. I saw this cam and drove it 2 days ago and its a quality built cam. There is a lot of time,effort, and money gone into this cam so give the guy some respect. We are all friends here lads....
Im sure lad not sayin a word!! ya know what i mean she is just standered enought to look at apart from the wheels thats all im sure she is a very tight cam:thumbsup:

[EOIN AE86]

This now was a credit to its owner:D:lol:

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/eoinae86/111pop-1.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/eoinae86/111pop2-1.jpg

[Sarsfield]

This now was a credit to its owner:Dlol:

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q269/eoinae86/111pop-1.jpg

I heard the lad that owned that was a right ejjit altogether, i heard he sold her and moved on to a dirty nissan,heard he loves datsuns:screwy:

[jim86]

that resides in paulstown in kilkenny now as far as i know

[EOIN AE86]

that resides in paulstown in kilkenny now as far as i know
I know i nearly cry everytime he passes me on the road:(

[jim86]

ya may just get an other one like it eoin...tis a fair nice cam thou,nearly had it bought but it was gone before i got back down with the money :(

back to topic,thats what i start to think of when i think of a jap cam

[Sarsfield]

I like the white one,i wouldnt call it a jap cam (coz its not) but its different,nice,not ott or anything. I seen one or two pics of it before and i wasnt sure but them pics are alot better and show it off better,she looks clean and well minded,fair play:thumbsup:

[dazae86]

seen both these cars up close 2 very nice cams but im a "paddy" man myself lovely cam gaz :thumbsup:

[johndae86]

paddy cams all de way..

[Gorman]

I think their both mint, Garys cam is sweet as a nut and micheals is sweet too, loads gone into that car.

Personally i prefer Jap cams, paddy/UK cams are nice and I can appreciate them but they are so fuckin predictable, superlights, janspeed, billies/konis, cibies. Whereas Jap cams are different everytime, kits, wheels, suspension, engines, cages, seats, paint schemes, spoilers, gauges, exhausts, arches...th list goes on. Just my view.

[Brian]

Jap cams all d way:thumbsup:

[Larry]

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz:)
A big buala bos for Sarsfield who learned his alphabet yesterday:thumbsup:

[scottie]

well i have a '84 jap and i'm going uk with it, but keeping the half cage and bucket seat, and the suspension, i have '86 black bumpers,janspeed, sideskirts, uk mirrors, taillights, sideskirts, just need to get thems all on over the holidays. i have her sittin on superlites, i took the longchamps off her, i'm going to keep all the jap running gear, trd quickshift, trd diff, hks filter, trd cams etc. i have always admired the uk coupes and thought i'd buy a jap and turn her into a uk

[choco]

Jap......:thumbsup:

[Antoh]

Garys paddy cam all the way :thumbsup:

[JamesAE86]

these are both uk gt coupes right, so the question doesnt really make sense?

[johnmaloney88]

has to be paddy spec, now if that white one was left to paddy spec she'd be class, pre-facelift grille back on here, unpainted bumpers, superlites and it'd be my ideal cam.

[Mark-86]

I like both very much, but my problem is, we simply DO NOT have the roads here to enjoy a good jap AE86. they have to be low, stiff, streched tyres which is a recipie for disaster here. thats why i have a paddy spec, i drive it every day to work and stuff, and its comfy. if i was getting a jap ae86 it would have to be a trueno tho

[DaveJ]

like paddy spec more, but like japs like my own one no mad kits just subtle jobs done and big power

[Trixta]

Dont see the point of this to be honest? Is it just ment as a feature or as a question? Neither cam is my cup of tea but they both look clean and tidy. White cam isnt exactly "jap" in fairness. My thought are the same as Gormans above.

@Mark: I use mine as an everyday car aswell. Depends where you live I suppose. Mines mostly city and main road driving though. Its pretty low, stiff and tyres come out past the arches. Wouldnt call it comfortable or anything but I'm used to it now and dont even notice it. I'm happy enough to put up with it to be able to have the car i want.

[TrevorAE86]

Love the mad jap cams and the paddy/uk spec coupes equally for different reasons:) as for which one do i perfer in this feature it would have to be the paddy spec coupe,
well done Fatman keep them features coming :thumbsup:

[Mark-86]

Dont see the point of this to be honest? Is it just ment as a feature or as a question? Neither cam is my cup of tea but they both look clean and tidy. White cam isnt exactly "jap" in fairness. My thought are the same as Gormans above.

@Mark: I use mine as an everyday car aswell. Depends where you live I suppose. Mines mostly city and main road driving though. Its pretty low, stiff and tyres come out past the arches. Wouldnt call it comfortable or anything but I'm used to it now and dont even notice it. I'm happy enough to put up with it to be able to have the car i want.

Yeah its not so bad outside dublin, but i used to drive my kp everyday, and the speed ramps would make you want to sell the car, its an absoloute joke. 3kms over every speed ramp, what a load of cock. my twincam has TRD dampers and TRD springs no coilover or anything, and low and stiff but fine. the kp tho is rediculous.

anyway, it was just a small point why its not as enjoyable here as it would be in japan, ive been in a stupidly low ae86 in japan, infact its that mad gold one that a member has here, and it was as smooth as a S500 merc on the japanese roads, i bet the owner now doesnt think so lol

[Colm-86]

Black Uk Spec for me.

[shane86s0]

Black Uk Spec for me.


:iagree:

[KevStarlet]

Paddy spec all the way! The jappers need to have kits and big dishes on wheels in my opinion, but two sweet cams anyhow!:thumbsup:

[Joe.]

@Fatman Can you post the pis in all your thread under each other , is a right pain scrolling across the pages to see pics


Nice cars too and the black uk looks better

[FATMAN]

well done Fatman keep them features coming :thumbsup:

thanks, but no chance. :thumbsup:

[frankAE86]

That white cam is some straight car, those wheels dont do anything for it in my opinion. Notice in the last 2 pics the original front bumper brackets still on the white car. I didnt restore that car at all :) A lad on here JMAE86 or something has a pic of it before in his avatar back when it has gold revo's, yummy.

[GAZ GSi]

thanks to john for the feature

thanks for the comments lads, it has to be uk for me, jap is nice different in its own way, everyone to there own

[keith87]

these are both uk gt coupes right, so the question doesnt really make sense?

i agree wit james not really a fair question!! mind ya the uk spec is mint, wait there both uk :banghead: :confused: im confused :)

seriously though there both lovely cars lads fair play!

[smiley--cam]

Paddy cam all the way

[FATMAN]

@Fatman Can you post the pis in all your thread under each other , is a right pain scrolling across the pages to see pics

sorry about that. i'll will do next time alright, but just for you joe.:thumbsup:

[FATMAN]

these are both uk gt coupes right, so the question doesnt really make sense?

i agree wit james not really a fair question!! mind ya the uk spec is mint, wait there both uk :banghead: :confused: im confused :)

like it says both are english coupes, it's the spec that differ (no pun intended).

[cloko]

luv da paddy spec,but there is a lot of japs wit low miles and bodies dat were never touched paddy cars all had rust at 1 stage so like da mint japs,its a 50-50 4 me wood be proud of any of the 2....cams a cam:) :)

[JamesAE86]

I know what you're sayin fatman but to me 'jap-spec' isnt just jap wheels, jap rear lights and jap exhaust on a gt coupe if you know what I mean. its like sayin if you put trd parts on a coupe does that make it jap spec? but trd parts are for all cams. not havin a go at your feature but ideally we should put a burgundy/s/o/g on superlights/janspeed etc. beside a proper jap cam and then you can compare. but you've so many different things like lads with japs made to look uk, standard/mild japs, full jap drift cars, uk rally cars, and then theres mine...
here we see a traditional paddy spec beside a paddy spec with a few jap bits on. not knockin anyones car or anything, just talking :)
and where do you draw the line, is puttin a set of jap wheels only on a uk make it jap spec? wheres the line?






Discuss :thumbsup:

[FATMAN]

[QUOTE=JamesAE86]I know what you're sayin fatman but to me 'jap-spec' isnt just jap wheels, jap rear lights and jap exhaust on a gt coupe if you know what I mean. its like sayin if you put trd parts on a coupe does that make it jap spec? but trd parts are for all cams. not havin a go at your feature but ideally we should put a burgundy/s/o/g on superlights/janspeed etc. beside a proper jap cam and then you can compare. but you've so many different things like lads with japs made to look uk, standard/mild japs, full jap drift cars, uk rally cars, and then theres mine...
here we see a traditional paddy spec beside a paddy spec with a few jap bits on. not knockin anyones car or anything, just talking :)
and where do you draw the line, is puttin a set of jap wheels only on a uk make it jap spec? wheres the line?[quote]

how i'd see it is the mods on the black car (konis, supers & janspeed) are all rally mods which are what make the paddy spec a paddy spec. the mods on the white are drift mods (jap exhaust, advans) coupled with the jap styling (redlines, nardi wheel) have in my eyes pushed it into jap spec in the same way you can take a japper and make it uk spec or paddy spec.

example.....
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q156/fatman359/001.jpg
still a japper, full paddy spec.

the above i'd call a "paddy spec" jap levin

where as i'd call the white 85 a "jap spec" uk coupe

[EircamAE86]

What you say is True in the above Fatman,
I just dont understand the "Paddy Spec" heads with Jap Levins & even Truenos, if ya want a gt coupe, buy one,,simple Its soooooo obviously a "levin" even though it has the paddy jazzzzz.
BUT, I just cant understand the Irish full Stop. Down on everything, unless the phrase "Just in From England, Pockets, Diff 100%" appears alongside it & then it worth a packet, even thought is more than likely a shitter that has been stiched together more than once.

[Mark-86]

I know what you're sayin fatman but to me 'jap-spec' isnt just jap wheels, jap rear lights and jap exhaust on a gt coupe if you know what I mean. its like sayin if you put trd parts on a coupe does that make it jap spec? but trd parts are for all cams. not havin a go at your feature but ideally we should put a burgundy/s/o/g on superlights/janspeed etc. beside a proper jap cam and then you can compare. but you've so many different things like lads with japs made to look uk, standard/mild japs, full jap drift cars, uk rally cars, and then theres mine...
here we see a traditional paddy spec beside a paddy spec with a few jap bits on. not knockin anyones car or anything, just talking
and where do you draw the line, is puttin a set of jap wheels only on a uk make it jap spec? wheres the line?





id have to agree 100% here, the white car is a gt coupe with different wheels and lights put on, half hours work.
doesnt REALLY make it jap spec imho.

id be more comparing these two, much better comparison

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/driftkp61/stuff/DSC01300.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/driftkp61/stuff/DSC01301.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/driftkp61/stuff/DSC01589.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/driftkp61/stuff/DSC01590.jpg

[Mark-86]

What you say is True in the above Fatman,
I just dont understand the "Paddy Spec" heads with Jap Levins & even Truenos, if ya want a gt coupe, buy one,,simple Its soooooo obviously a "levin" even though it has the paddy jazzzzz.
BUT, I just cant understand the Irish full Stop. Down on everything, unless the phrase "Just in From England, Pockets, Diff 100%" appears alongside it & then it worth a packet, even thought is more than likely a shitter that has been stiched together more than once.

youve just answered your own question

what if someone wants the irish style but doesnt want a filler ridden rot box thats about 5 cars welded into one?
who cares what country its made in?

what makes it a levin? a 7 euro sticker on the boot

[FATMAN]

i've said it before and here i go again.

give me a "paddy spec" japper any day. clean underneath, power steering, a/c. supers, janspeed (the soundtrack from going to my first rally) burgandy, s/o/g, all white. originality doesn't worry me.:thumbsup:

[EircamAE86]

youve just answered your own question

what if someone wants the irish style but doesnt want a filler ridden rot box thats about 5 cars welded into one?
who cares what country its made in?

what makes it a levin? a 7 euro sticker on the boot
You are 100% correct in what you say, & I agree, a shell, is a shell.
Im on about twincam heads who are totally down of Jap cars.

[Mark-86]

agreed

my car is a levin, its 100% rust free, so i dont give a monkeys :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/driftkp61/stuff/DSC02511.jpg

[EircamAE86]

I love em all, have a UK/JDM/USDM & another of no ethnic origin:)

[Mark-86]

You are 100% correct in what you say, & I agree, a shell, is a shell.
Im on about twincam heads who are totally down of Jap cars.

i get ya now, im all for originality if you have a mint car that deserves to be original, but if its just a run of the mill ae86 thats to be used, do it the way you like imo

id never swap my car for an irish/uk car unless it was a E14,000 "minter" bla bla no thanks il have my E4,000 levin that looks the same:thumbsup:

[FATMAN]

id have to agree 100% here, the white car is a gt coupe with different wheels and lights put on, half hours work.
doesnt REALLY make it jap spec imho.

id be more comparing these two, much better comparison

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/driftkp61/stuff/DSC01300.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/driftkp61/stuff/DSC01301.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/driftkp61/stuff/DSC01589.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/driftkp61/stuff/DSC01590.jpg

thats a fairly obvious comparison.

i'm comparing the choice of mods and displaying both cars side by side, asking who'd choose what.

it's not like the owner of the 85 is passing it of as a jap cause he's not.
one look at the chassis number would tell it's a uk car.

if you tried to do a feature with the 2 cars pictured you'd have a subtle spec list for the coupe and about 3 posts full of spec for the trueno.

it would not work.

[cfly]

so where does my coupe fit in lol,

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb95/cfly_2007/rug/254621343a4690515624l.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb95/cfly_2007/rug/14-01-08_0906.jpg

:lol: :smokin:

[mouwt]

The most unique of all! lol

[choco]

That is lovely man, really liking that:thumbsup:

[nzae86]

how bout new zealand new spec? basically uk spec with jap mirrors 240kmh speedo no lock in petrol cap etc how are they viewed?

[jdm86gtz]

[QUOTE=cfly]so where does my coupe fit in lol,

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb95/cfly_2007/rug/14-01-08_0906.jpg
QUOTE]

Probably mid-Atlantic with that combo.

[dale purcell]

well if this makes any sence i'd like normal paddy spec looking car superlights,janspeed and cibbies but with a hint of jap tuning 4age on itb's and all the other drifting spec stuff they come with.you'd give people some hop a standard looking cam with about 160 brake

[mouwt]

well if this makes any sence i'd like normal paddy spec looking car superlights,janspeed and cibbies but with a hint of jap tuning 4age on itb's and all the other drifting spec stuff they come with.you'd give people some hop a standard looking cam with about 160 brake

I couldnt agree with you more! :thumbsup:

[stephen bawn]

well if this makes any sence i'd like normal paddy spec looking car superlights,janspeed and cibbies but with a hint of jap tuning 4age on itb's and all the other drifting spec stuff they come with.you'd give people some hop a standard looking cam with about 160 brake





ya im with u on that 1,wanted a very clean shell and all the bits on the car but want it uk spec looking(in time to come)

[sc86]

well if this makes any sence i'd like normal paddy spec looking car superlights,janspeed and cibbies but with a hint of jap tuning 4age on itb's and all the other drifting spec stuff they come with.you'd give people some hop a standard looking cam with about 160 brake

perfection

[nikki]

I heard the lad that owned that was a right ejjit altogether, i heard he sold her and moved on to a dirty nissan,heard he loves datsuns:screwy:


SAP !!! who does them kinda things :screwy:

he he ,,, i love paddy spec meself :D

[danny86]

not into them paddy spec twincams i think they all look the same..
it would have ta be a jap cam for me like this one
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii70/dannyae86/129.jpg

[ronnie]

paddy spec all the way love um

[markd]

paddy spec all the way love um
I'll hav to agree with you on this...:thumbsup:
Paddys specs wer my first luv and always will be, theres just sumtin special bout em, everytime i see one my pulse starts racing:)

[sc86]

i think most lads that arnt in2 paddy specs are new to the whole twin cam scence, most but not all....

[markd]

i think most lads that arnt in2 paddy specs are new to the whole twin cam scence, most but not all....

ya true, but im only 18 (going on 19 in April) but i still love Paddy specs more.

People only like jap cams cos the most of em are more powerful and they want jap cams cos of all the drifting

[simo1]

People only like jap cams cos the most of em are more powerful and they want jap cams cos of all the drifting


cant agree wit that lad.... in my opinion id go for a jap cam interly cause of the looks.... i think they just look so cooool.... the jap wheels selection is something else and there so crazy cool lookin.....

my prefrence would be a jap cam..but id still take a paddy cam any day.... any twin cam would do...

[johnmaloney88]

Paddy spec with a jap heart and legs, pre-facelift, 170bhp and coilovers, and a girl drives it!! perfection!

http://z12.invisionfree.com/irishcoupes/index.php?showtopic=5647

[KevStarlet]

Thats a sweet white one!!

[AmandaAE86]

i think most lads that arnt in2 paddy specs are new to the whole twin cam scence, most but not all....

agree agree!!!!!:thumbsup:

[Mark-86]

i think most lads that arnt in2 paddy specs are new to the whole twin cam scence, most but not all....

yup id have to agree there but like you said not all

[shane86s0]

yup id have to agree there but like you said not all


:iagree:

[stephen bawn]

i think most lads that arnt in2 paddy specs are new to the whole twin cam scence, most but not all....


thats a FACT

[Kouki Paul]

To be honest with ye lads im fairly new to this craic too,no matter levin gt apex or corolla gt coupe,the minute some one says twin cam whether it jap or not,i automatically think supers,cibies and janspeed and the whole bap bap culture! so my favourite would have to be paddy spec,even though i drive a boot coupe! :thumbsup:

[docco86]

have t say im jap all the way! paddy spec cams have no selection really der is supers supers or supers for wheels n of course the cibies.with the jap cams nything go's n they jus lik bolder i think!

[Japman2202]

paddy cams all de way..

dat pic of d silver over graphite woz taken in dungarvan..........

i luv me jap trueno on carbs but me 1st luv is paddy spec.


http://www.wkdimports.com/trueno-on-throttle-bodies

if id d money id av 1 of each :D

[collieno]

i would have to say japs all the way, always better speced

[nikki]

http://www.wkdimports.com/trueno-on-throttle-bodies



minter !!!!!!!!!!! :dft008:

[nail86trueno]

This is like asking that priest on Father *** if he wanted biscuit or Cake!!!

[TcColly]

think i wud rather a paddy cam meself... no power steerin an a cassette player does the job well for me..

[keith87]

think i wud rather a paddy cam meself... no power steerin an a cassette player does the job well for me..


my jap cam has no power steering no electrics!!

[ae86carl]

Ive a jap,

gona get an irish one day, one of each, ha!

[babybird]

ill have to say paddy, garys cam is mint!

[cam84]

jap all the way!! although like ya say if i had the money id have one of each!!

[twin cam mad]

in my opinon this thread should be closed of course its going to be paady spec all the way cant beat a janspeed for da daka daka and 4 cibies lowerd and hardend

go on garry

[PeterT]

in my opinon this thread should be closed of course its going to be paady spec all the way cant beat a janspeed for da daka daka and 4 cibies lowerd and hardend

go on garry



why should it be closed?? im a jap man myself, dont realy like the way all irish ones look the same. thats my opinion! :shutit:

[Mr Doricar]

Jap ones! Less rust...plus i got one for sale...So ya...Jap all the way

[initial Dane]

paddy defo,,but a cam is a cam i love them all..dont no how any one can like paddys and hate japs or vise versa..they were all built in japan they are all toyota,,the paddy style is just classier lookin when done rite and on a mint cam..but the japs wound be a more sensible option obviously because theirs not much rust or rot and you get all the electricts and power stearing,,plus you can go wild with kits and the like,,id still pick a mint paddy do!!

[nail86trueno]

paddy defo,,but a cam is a cam i love them all..dont no how any one can like paddys and hate japs or vise versa..they were all built in japan they are all toyota,,the paddy style is just classier lookin when done rite and on a mint cam..but the japs wound be a more sensible option obviously because theirs not much rust or rot and you get all the electricts and power stearing,,plus you can go wild with kits and the like,,id still pick a mint paddy do!!

I agree with Dane.. A cam is a cam an people shouldn't run down a uk over a jap or vice versa.. Ideally i'll have one of each soon...:nod::nod:

[Mark-86]

in my opinon this thread should be closed of course its going to be paady spec all the way cant beat a janspeed for da daka daka and 4 cibies lowerd and hardend

go on garry

what the hell are you on about? :|

[nikki]

whos garry ?

[GAZ GSi]

whos garry ?

that would be me i own the black coupe

[nikki]

that would be me i own the black coupe

ahhh was a bit confused there ha

[MJ-AE86]

It would have to be Jap for me, but sayin that might buy a paddy spec sum day:happy:

I liked this Jap cam :happy:

[simo1]

^^^^that is a very sexy cam indeeeeeed

[EircamAE86]

:boring:

[Trixta]

:boring:
Know what ya mean. Lads this isnt a thread about whether you prefer jap or paddy cams!! it was a feature on a jap styled AE86 and a paddy styled AE86. Thats it. Someone has suddenly resurrected the thread and completely missed the point:doh:

[EVADE]

You know what I like already=) But the other style still does have a purpose.